3rd Act: Victoria Starr Marshall–Relaunching a publishing career

Victoria Starr Marshall (along with her husband David Marshall) is the Publisher and Editor of 3rd Act Magazine, a lifestyle magazine for older adults in the Pacific Northwest.  From 1987 to 2011 she was the founder and president of Discovery Map International, an illustrated tourist map publisher and franchise organization. She lives on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington State.


Highlights from the Show

Retirement’s not always what is cracked up to be, especially if you’ve enjoyed the fun and challenge of running a successful business!

Victoria was living the retirement many of us might dream about. She lived between her home on the waters of Washington State and a home in Canada where she and her husband, David were snow-birds during ski season. Yet two years into retirement she decided that she wanted more from life and she and David purchased a magazine.

Now Third Act Magazine has taken off, consuming more time than expected, yet giving VIctoria and David a  new world of connections as well as opportunities to thrive–while still spending time on the slopes.

Hear the interview with Victoria:

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The Show Notes

Be sure to check out 3rd Act Magazine! 


3rd Act: Debra Eve: Later Bloomers

Debra Eve is a storyteller and archaeologist who unearths tales of late-blooming wonder. She believes that “Once Upon A Time” can happen any time and it’s never too late to follow your weird. You can find her inspiring profiles of midlife-and-beyond creativity at http://www.laterbloomer.com.



Highlights from the Show

Debra shares about her own adventures with Late Blooming – her varied careers – and the fascinating stories of men and women who came of age post-midlife.

Hear the interview with Debra:

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The Show Notes

Learn more about Debra’s work at Later-Bloomer.com. And check out her e-book.

Read my blog post with information about Debra click here.  (https://www.engagingpresence.com/can-wait-become/)

StoryPros: Jeffrey Davis—Shape/Write/Live Your Story


Jeffrey Davis is a writer, speaker, consultant, and author of four books. Through his firm and consultancy Tracking Wonder, he and his team work with creative innovators, entrepreneurs, and social psychologists to help people flourish in times of challenge and change. He lives with his wife and their two little girls in a farmhouse in the Hudson Valley of New York.

Learn how Jeffrey works with “Business Artists:” writers, entrepreneurs, and creatives of all kinds to help them find and shape both their personal and brand stories.







Highlights from the Show

Jeffrey shares his own journey from writer, to story coach, to story architect.

How Jeffrey’s philosophical background shapes the way he helps others to find their stories and their brands.

How the business artist, whether they are working within existing companies, or are creative entrepreneurs, or business owners share the qualities of:

  • willing to learn how to create, imagine and innovate like an artist
  • willing to learn how to experiment like a scientist
  • willing to learn how to earn like an entrepreneur

Why so many are turning to writing and personal writing in these turbulent times.

How having a sense of history and heritage can strengthen your practice and your story.

“Own your ideas. Own your authority. Own your point of view. Own your voice.”

“Stories can show us how to become deeply human.”

“Stories open up windows of possibility…at whatever stage of life we’re at.”

Why you need a daily practice when you’re on a quest, being stretched beyond your comfort zone.

How Jeffrey helps people who are on a quest to track on their paths.

How Jeffrey schedules and uses “Deep Dive Retreats” to fuel himself and his practice.


Hear the interview with Jeffrey:

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More about Jeffrey:

JEFFREY DAVIS researches, interviews, and works with creative innovators, scientists, and social psychologists to discover how creatives flourish in times of challenge and change. He mentors authors, business artists, and thought leaders to excel in their field and make a difference with their ideas and art. Author of the groundbreaking book The Journey from the Center to the Page: Yoga Philosophies and Practices As Muse for Authentic Writing (Penguin 2004; Monkfish Publishing, updated & revised ed., 2008), he writes online columns for Psychology Today and The Creativity Post. His essays, articles, short stories, and poems appear in publications around the world. He recently served as Fiction Editor for Tiferet: A Journal of Spiritual Literature.

He has taught and spoken at NPOs, organizations, universities, conferences, and leading centers in four countries.

The Show Notes

Learn more about Jeffrey at Tracking Wonder

Sign up for Jeffrey’s writing here:

Read Jeffrey’s book Journey from the Center to the Page: Yoga Philosophies and Practices as Muse for Authentic Writing

Story Pros: David Hutchens–Creating knowledge through stories

screen-shot-2016-02-01-at-12-11-33-pm-e1454357592204-250x250David Hutchens, organizational story expert and best-selling author of Circle of the 9 Muses talks about how companies can create knowledge more effectively using stories that support learning and meaning-making.

In this interview, we build on our previous Vital Presence Interview #69  with David exploring how storytelling serves organizational learning.


Here’s the entire interview:


You can also find it on the Vital Presence podcast on Itunes, episode 81.



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Quotes from the interview:

“There’s a geography of meaning when a story is told, there is meaning all around that story. There’s the meaning that you bring with you. As the teller, there’s the meaning inside the story – the text – and then there’s the meaning that’s in front of the story [the connections that people draw from the story that get drawn out in dialogue.]”

From the Show

  • How we need stories for sense-making in a changing world that is becoming less predictable.
  • Why it can be useful to look for examples of positive deviance.
  • How to support your audience’s listening by giving them a job.
  • Why we need “question literacy”: –finding the questions that will lead us into to the future.
  • How to set up a strategic story session for knowledge creation.

About My Guest

David Hutchens is a bestselling author, business writer and learning designer who creates communication solutions for The Coca-Cola Company, Wal-Mart, IBM, GE, Nike, Bank of America, and others. He served as chairman of Storytelling in Organizations, a special interest group of the globally renowned National Storytelling Network.

He speaks to organizations and leadership teams all around the world on the topic of storytelling as an organizational capacity.  His new book is “Circle of the 9 Muses: A Storytelling Field Guide for Innovators and Meaning Makers,”  Wiley & Sons 2015

He is creator of the Learning Fables — a book series that uses narrative and metaphor to illustrate principles of organizational learning. With titles that include “Outlearning the Wolves” and “Shadows of the Neanderthal,” the popular business fables have sold more than a quarter-million copies in over a dozen languages.

He is author of the book “A Slice of Trust: The Leadership Secret with the Hot & Fruity Filling,” which features a foreword by Stephen M.R. Covey.

In partnership with The Conference Board, he is creator and lead facilitator of The Team USA Leadership Experience, at the Olympic Training Center in Colorado springs; and he also facilitates The Apollo Leadership Experience at NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston.

A nationally recognized developer of innovative learning products, David’s work has been recognized with distinctions such as Training & Development’s “Training Product of the Year” award; ASTD’s prestigious “Excellence in Practice” award; Brandon Hall Gold award, and more.

David’s newest product is “GO Team: Powering Teams to Perform,” a just-in-time team training resource. GO Team’s library of 18 team-related topics allows you to build your own learning agenda tailored to your team’s needs.

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David’s book: Circle of the 9 Muses: A Storytelling Field Guide for Innovators and Meaning Makers

David’s website:   www.davidhutchens.com

Story Pros: Vanessa Chase Lockshin–The storytelling nonprofit



Vanessa Chase Lockshin is an international non-profit consultant, thought leader, trainer, and speaker. She’s part of the next generation of professionals bringing change to the non-profit sector and challenging conventions. Vanessa is President of The Storytelling Non-Profit, and author of The Storytelling Non-Profit: A practical guide to telling stories that raise money and awareness. To date, Vanessa has helped non-profits raise over $10 million. She is also a board member at WAVAW Rape Crisis Centre.



Highlights from the Show

  • The importance of relationship in long term donor relationship.
  • Why story is a critical part of the nonprofit toolset – to bring communications alive.
  • Using data without data dumping.
  • Looking for different stories: stories of impact; stories of donors.
  • Stories can communicate values and beliefs — we provide social proof to others like them.
  • The difference between testimonials from donors and stories?
  • Clarifying the basic emotion we want people to feel, Why inspiration works more than pity.
  • Making sure that we keep the dignity and respect in a story that we are telling for someone else.
  • The importance of conveying urgency or readiness for action,  be able to answer the question, “Why give now?”
  • Know why the community needs a program–and then build around that in sharing why we need it now.
  • Create a culture of storytelling and create a team effort.
  • Considering the double edges of social media.
  • The role of videos.
  • How to leverage your content.
  • Why conflict is needed in a story.
  • The real hero of a fundraising story is the donor.
  • How to build empathy with the clients.

Hear the interview with Vanessa:

Click here to go to the full interview on iTunes (#80)

Click here to listen to episode 78 in iTunes

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The Show Notes

Learn more about Vanessa’s work at www.thestorytellingnonprofit.com


Story Pros: Cynthia Kurtz—Finding the narratives

In a world where so many get their start in business storytelling through branding and marketing, Cynthia Kurtz followed a different route in: through science and through work at IBM research. She has pioneered a field she calls Participative Narrative, blending participative story work with action research in organizations.  She’s written an amazingly useful guide to participatory story work, called Working with Stories in Your Community or Organization.

Highlights from the show

  • What is participatory narrative.
  • How Cynthia came into the field from a background in science.
  • How she’s been applying the process in organizations, and coaching others to do the same.
  • What not to do when you ask for stories.
  • How to combine story-seeking approaches and encourage participation.
  • Why you shouldn’t ask people to “tell you a story.”
  • Why story listening is critical and how you can improve yours.



Click here to listen to episode 79 in iTunes


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About my guest

Cynthia F. Kurtz is a researcher, software developer, consultant, and writer who has been helping communities and organizations work with their stories since 1999. Originally an ethologist, Cynthia discovered the field of organizational narrative at IBM Research, where she conducted research projects to help IBM develop internal and client services centered around organizational stories. She built on that work at IBM’s Institute for Knowledge Management and at the consulting firm Cognitive Edge before launching her independent consultancy in 2009. She has consulted on over eighty narrative projects for a variety of clients in government, for-profit, and non-profit sectors. In 2008 she self-published the first edition of her textbook,  Working with Stories in Your Community or Organization. Now in its third edition, the book is widely considered a vital resource for participatory story work. Cynthia lives in upstate New York with her husband and son.

The Show Notes

Check out:Working with Stories in Your Community or Organization or read learn more about Cynthia and read  excerpts here: www.workingwithstories.org/

You can also learn more about participatory narrative at PNI.org.



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